Success And Failure Contribute To The Experience It Takes To Succeed

Experience matters when it comes to advisers, vendors and employees.  A recent post by Eric Ries on gigaom.com challenged the conventional wisdom that people who worked at previously successful start-ups hands down have the solid experience you need in your employees and advisers. If you had a good run at a Google or an Amazon or an eBay you are without a doubt the person a start-up should bring on board. The problem is that founders and companies get so caught up in the name that they don’t look behind the curtain.  How do you choose between employee 100 at eBay versus someone who did time at HP and Apple but the one start-up they worked at hit the deadpool after two years?

We can’t discount the impact of having big name success in your company pedigree.  We see it all the time at Open Mountain as we work with start-ups and investors.  We had one prospect use the pedigree of advisers to a consultant he briefly hired in his pitch.  Sort of like his company hired the guy who dates the sister of the guy who walks Steve Job’s dog if you know what I mean.  Another case the person with the pedigree had joined one of the Internet giants after the battle had been won and during the time the business plateaued.   In both cases, we observed first hand that the viewing audience accepted the pedigree on face value.

Remember Webvan?  Webvan was one of the high flying companies of the first Internet boom that spent obscene billions on grocery delivery infrastructure only to go belly up at first sign of trouble.  Who would ever hire a person with that on their resume?  If you were to hire that person, the first thing he or she would tell you is don’t over build and make sure you have ways to reduce  costs during economic down turn.  That seems like really valuable advice to me.  If you hired someone who had been at Amazon, he or she might tell you to build like crazy and run up huge debt because it’s a land grab and we’re playing for keeps.  This is exactly what Amazon did and it certainly worked for them.  Which approach would be better for a start-up in today’s market?

Let’s dispel a few myths of our own.  With the exception of the leadership at the top, the job done by most people at say etoys, Webvan or uBid was not much different than the same people at eBay, Yahoo or Amazon.   There were plenty of good people at the first three companies just as surely as there were bad people at the success stories.  We tend to assume that everyone who worked at a runaway success was a home run hitter.  Yet we all know many great lessons are learned by failure.  Your experts need to know how to succeed for sure, but they also need to know how to avoid failure.

Here are 3 tips on how to get the best people and avoid the glossy eyed acceptance from talking to someone who worked at a runaway success story:

1) Don’t hire anyone who doesn’t have at least one significant failure they are willing to talk about.  The failure means they have learned.  The “talk about” part means they are being as honest as reasonably possible in the vetting process.  Here’s an interview tip.  After hearing about the failure, ask them for the name of someone else who also went through the failure with them that they still like. Then ask the candidate to describe their impressions of the themselves from perspective of the other person.  In an excellent interviewing class I had a while back, the teacher explained that the possibility you may actually know or contact the third person increases the chance your candidate will give you an honest answer.

2) Go rent season 4 of the TV show House.  In season 4, House is forced to build a a new team.  The process is entertaining but also valuable if you are interested in characteristics of a great team.  You should probably watch some of the earlier seasons so you understand the show.  House understands that to build the best team, you have to hire people who compliment your skills, who are not afraid of failure and who are willing to look for the best solution no matter the cost or process.  Most importantly, don’t just hire people who think like you if you want to benefit from the unique experiences of individuals with different points of view.

3) Hire people with great pedigrees in their past too!  Yes, I know the focus of this post was about how not to let pedigree cloud your thinking.  Simply put, experience matters and working with people who have done great work and achieved great success makes a difference.  My point is that you need to look beneath the surface and make sure the experience is real.  That is also the point of Eric Ries in his post.  He provides all the ways people with pedigree experience may not have earned that experience or learned from that experience.  I would suggest you review the post before the interview and do your best to determine if the person in front of you fits one of his profiles.

Any day of the week, I’ll take the person with substantial experience that includes brand names and failures over the person with only one great success story in their past.  I like to see some start-up experience, but I like that most when it is balanced with large company experience too.  After all, I’m not saving people’s lives like my good friend Dr. House, but I do want to have a team that can save a company in need and to do that they must know what to do when things don’t go as planned.